Literature Glossary
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Many older works have this type of narration, such as Little Women, for example, but it doesn't seem to be as popular today. I've honestly never had a problem with it myself And, in fact, was unaware until now that it was the style I had been writing in. She had to come and tell Alfred that he was wrong to dribble ice cream on his clean, freshly pressed pants.
He was wrong not to be happy or grateful or even remotely lucid when his wife and daughter went to enormous trouble to bring him home for Thanksgiving dinner... Amir Ali Nojoumian is Associate Professor of English Literature and Literary Theory, Shahid Beheshti University, Tehran, Iran. By the way, there seems to be some arguments, but I totally agree that HP is 99% TPL. McCarthy does it a lot, too, notably in The Road.
New Calls for Papers 2018 - Free indirect discourse has been in use in literature since at least the early nineteenth century.
All my writing of late has gravitated to this voice. I find it very, very expressive, but very, very difficult. It raises so many technical issues that just weren't present when I was using other points of view and voice. Just in case you are not familiar, free indirect discourse, or free indirect speech, is a voice that blends the points of view of a close omniscient third person narrator and the character's first person speech. To simplify: Indirect discourse: She looked at the hotel room. She thought it would be nice to stay there the next day. It would be nice to stay here tomorrow. I've honestly never had a problem with it myself And, in fact, was unaware until now that it was the style I had been writing in. Basically, each scene is through the viewpoint of a specific character, but told in third-person, almost as if the character were narrating the scene themselves. Thus, everything that would be narration comes from the character's perspective. Occasionally I shift to a 'floating viewpoint', allowing me to touch upon multiple characters in the same scene, but I tend to use this sparingly as it can get confusing seeing something through the eyes of six different people, for example, can be very useful, though. The only problems this tends to create come from describing new characters and scenes so that the reader can create a mental image - it's unnatural and often, just plain bad writing to have the characters describe new places to themselves like a narrator would. It's not too difficult to avoid this, though. In any regards, I always stick with the character's pov. The only time I use a narrator pov is if the character hasn't been introduced in the scene yet, or on the rare occasion when I use an omniscient perspective. HamdenRice 1000+ posts Sun Dec-28-08 01:19 PM Response to 2. Here's a more concrete example than the one upthread: Close third person: Jeremy looked at the dinosaur model. He thought it looked real. Jeremy looked at the dinosaur model. That's a little abrupt and clumsy but you get the idea. The shift from the third person narrator to the character is the hardest part, and is signaled very subtly when done well. That precise timing and the word choice used to signal that shift is the hard part. Sometimes, as in this example, a tense change is used to signal the shift in pov. Even as she was loosening up and becoming less critical in other areas of life, she remained strictly vigilant at the Deepmire Home. She had to come and tell Alfred that he was wrong to dribble ice cream on his clean, freshly pressed pants. He was wrong not to recognize Joe Person when Joe was nice enough to drop in. He was wrong not to look at snapshots of Aaron and Caleb and Johan. He was wrong not to be excited that Alison had given birth to two slightly underweight but healthy baby girls. He was wrong not to be happy or grateful or even remotely lucid when his wife and daughter went to enormous trouble to bring him home for Thanksgiving dinner... It is Enid either talking to Alfred or inside her head or a mixture of the narrator and Enid. Shiver 1000+ posts Sun Dec-28-08 04:03 PM Response to 4. I didn't explain it quite accurately The corners of her lips turned upwards as she sang, the last vestiges of sleep finally departing as her eyes snapped open in realization. It was a familiar song! With practiced ease, Thaliá rose to her feet without aid from her bound arms, her toes already tapping the rhythm. Pillows were kicked aside by fuzzy pink slippers as they glided into the center of the small cell, bringing with them the bouncy young woman. The words formed in her mind seconds before they sounded from the radio and rolled off her tongue in perfect accord. An attempt was made to rotate them, quickly deemed futile, and ignored in favour of the dance. Thaliá was slowly consumed by the music, swaying sensually in time with the beat - well, as sensually as one could sway while in an overly-confining straitjacket. Maybe they would let her take it off for a few minutes today and let her stretch out a bit. Hadn't it been a few weeks? It would have to be under close supervision, naturally - one could never be too careful. There are some instances where I have characters express direct thoughts, so I tend to interchange the two as the situation warrants, similar to what is shown in your example. HamdenRice 1000+ posts Wed Dec-31-08 11:37 AM Response to 5. I just want to point out that there is a difference between close third person point of view and free indirect discourse. I'm writing a story that looks at the inner lives of four family members, so it's not from any one character's pov; but it uses free indirect discourse to probe the thoughts of each of the four characters. Orrex 1000+ posts Sun Dec-28-08 02:54 PM Response to 3. I've been reading a lot of Hemingway's short stories lately, and he seems to do this a lot I don't have the text at hand, or I'd cite a specific example. McCarthy does it a lot, too, notably in The Road. Do you like your finished product? I can see how it would give an immediacy to the thoughts of one's characters, though. HamdenRice 1000+ posts Wed Dec-31-08 11:46 AM Response to 6. What is the old joke about talking in prose? It was something like that Johnson, on being informed that he had been speaking in prose all his life found he could no longer talk? Hemingway is, indeed, notable for his use of free indirect discourse. I find that I like the merging of the narrator's and character's voice. I only learned what free indirect discourse is because I wrote a story about a married couple and gave it at a workshop, and the instructor pointed to a paragraph and said that it was an example of free indirect discourse. So I researched it, and found that it was indeed an emerging style of mine. Well, for instance, what it means to be a man. Subject to tremendous controls. In a condition caused by mechanization. After the late failure of radical hopes. In a society that was no community and devalued the person. Owing to the multiplied power of numbers which made the self negligible. Which spent military billions against foreign enemies but would not pay for order at home. Which permitted savagery and barbarism in its own great cities. At the same time, the pressure of human millions who have discovered what concerted efforts and thoughts can do. As Megatons of water shape organisms on the ocean floor. As tides polish stones. As winds hollow cliffs. The beautiful supermachinery opening a new life for innumerable mankind. Would you ask them to labor and go hungry while you yourself enjoyed old-fashioned Values? You-you yourself are a child of this mass and a brother to all the rest. Or else an ingrate, dilettante, idiot. There, Herzog, thought Herzog, since you ask of an instance, is the way it runs. At any rate, this style is constantly throwing up these weird little questions.
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Oxford: Oxford UP, 1996. HamdenRice 1000+ posts Wed Dec-31-08 11:46 AM Response to 6. Jane Austen reports Sir Walter's angry reaction within inverted commas as she would the direct speech of Sir Walter but instead of using the first person singular pronoun 'I' she uses the third person singular 'he' which would be used only in u speech. Narration in the Fiction Film. That is what proper free indirect third person does for you, guys. And yes, we're trying to make your head spin. Good post and yet another usage I have to worry about, ha. He had gone in, spent two pens on north long answers, and finished before everyone because every little detail was on the tip of the tongue. And also, even if there's multiple characters, it's only ever from the main 2 characters' POV. Deleuze, Gilles, and Félix Guattari. And just what pleasure had he found, since he met into this world?.
